A wise old Lakota-Sioux Woman

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The old photo to your left is an important one:Chief's Red Cloud and Sitting Bull. (Update: a fellow blogger notified me and corrected the Warrior next to Red Cloud is American Horse. Also see picture of American Horse in full headress at bottom of this blog) I'm a Lakota-Sioux ,born and raised in Central Wyoming on the Arapho/ Shoshone Rez. My wisdom comes from the school of hard knocks,and the paths I choose to take. Along with the advice and stories from my elders, my road has lead me here.

Friday, April 24, 2009

Federal Government should not create a national database tracking firearm owners


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HCON 71 IH


111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. CON. RES. 71
Expressing the Sense of the Congress that the Federal Government should not create a national database tracking firearm owners or firearm purchases.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

March 12, 2009
Mr. REHBERG submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary


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CONCURRENT RESOLUTION
Expressing the Sense of the Congress that the Federal Government should not create a national database tracking firearm owners or firearm purchases.

Whereas the constitutional right to keep and bear arms conferred by the Second Amendment is essential to the defense of our Nation, the maintenance of liberty, and the suppression of tyranny;

Whereas the Supreme Court ruled, in District of Columbia v. Heller, that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm for traditionally lawful purposes such as self-defense and the defense of others;

Whereas infringement of the right to keep and bear arms would place individual citizens and the Nation as a whole at the mercy of threats both foreign and domestic;

Whereas George Washington, America's original commander-in-chief and President of the United States, stated `Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence . . . the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference--they deserve a place of honor with all that's good.'; and

Whereas law-abiding citizens have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms free from harassment and intimidation: Now, therefore, be it


Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That it is the sense of the Congress that the Federal Government should not create a national database for the purpose of tracking firearm owners or firearm purchases, as affirmed by section 926(a) of title 18, United States Code, as enacted by the Congress in Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986.

The Council on Foreign Relations exposed


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Gun Control issues


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''Fight to Protect the 2nd Amendment
Pulled from House of Reps

Against H.R. 45.''

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OPPOSING THE BLAIR HOLT'S

FIREARM LICENSING AND

RECORD OF SALE ACT

HON. DENNY REHBERG

OF MONTANA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Tuesday, March 24, 2009

Mr. REHBERG. Madam Speaker, a few

weeks ago, I stood on the floor of the House

of Representatives to express the outrage I'm

hearing from Montanans regarding H.R. 45

and similar bills that erode our Second

Amendment rights and make eventual confiscation

of firearms easier. Even gun-control advocates

understand that this bill goes too far.

They promise that H.R. 45 will never pass.

Notice, they don't say it shouldn't pass-

only that it won't.

Some of my colleagues here in Washington,

D.C. wish it could pass. And that's why it remains

so important to stand our ground

against The Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and

Record of Sale Act and similar measures.

Thomas Jefferson wrote, ''The price of freedom

is eternal vigilance.'' While public outcry

has made H.R. 45 a politically unattractive

proposal for now, make no mistake about it: if

we ease back, even for a moment, opponents

of the Second Amendment will take advantage.

I recently created a user-group on the popular

social networking website Facebook entitled

''Fight to Protect the 2nd Amendment

Against H.R. 45.'' It has been incredible to

watch the response as friends have invited

friends to join and people posted their opinions

on ''The Wall'' for others to read. In a little

over two weeks, the group has more than

1,500 members, with more joining every day.

Sadly a bill like H.R. 45 isn't politically unattractive

because it's a bad idea. Congress

passes bad ideas every day. It's politically unattractive

because Americans like those in my

Facebook group are taking Thomas Jefferson's

advice and remaining vigilant. It's politically

unattractive because of the grassroots

advocacy that has arisen against it.

To make it clear that advocates of liberty

will pay the price of vigilance for our freedom,

here is a sampling of some of the comments

that were written on the wall in that angry little

corner of Facebook.

''The ability to bear arms has much more

to do with being able to protect one's self

then it does for those hunting. I used a 22

rifle once to keep an invader out of my

apartment. I didn't have any ammo but all

the guy needed to see was my gun pointing

at him when he broke into my front door, he

promptly left and I was one less victim of

who knows what crime. Don't take that

right to defend myself away from me. I don't

want to be a statistic!''-Jaclyn Colebank

''As once was written, 'If guns kill people

then pencils misspell words.' As an avid gun

owner and 25 year old female I appreciate the

constitution and the rights we have been

given. The second amendment assists us in

protecting the first. If someone decides to

break into my home and deprive me of my

life, liberty and/or happiness, I am going to

protect those rights using a firearm if necessary.''-

Amanda Barta

''I use to never want to have a gun in my

home. They always scared me. My husband is

a trucker and over a year I am pretty much

alone with just my son in the home. I am

disabled so I can't really get away from

someone if they were to break in. A couple of

guys threatened my son and myself. Immediately

I told my husband that soon as he

came home we were going to get me a gun

and he was going to teach me to shoot. I

need to know how to protect my family and

myself. I also realize that an unarmed society

is nothing but slaves to the government.

The Founding Fathers knew that the people

needed a way to protect themselves from a

government gone wild which is why they

made sure we have the 2nd amendment. I am

now a member of the NRA and I will not be

disarmed. Statistics prove that areas that

have gun bans have a much higher crime

rate. I am a rape survivor and had I carried

a gun then maybe I would not have been a

victim. Never again.''-Anita Calbert

''If I'm a violent criminal all set to ply my

trade, I'd rather operate in an unarmed helpless

community than your basic Montana

town. What is it about an armed populace

that is so frightening?''-Randy Nankivel

''The second amendment states, ''A well

regulated Militia, being necessary to the security

of a free State, the right of the people

to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.''

While H.R 45 does not outright ban

guns, it would impair the purchase and ownership

of arms to the point to where it would

have the same effect as a ban, and as such

H.R. 45 should be considered unconstitutional.

Opponents will claim as long as there

is the opportunity to buy a gun, however

small, the second amendment would not be

violated. This is an abuse of the definition

and meaning of the second amendment, unfairly

restricting the scope of amendment

and marginalizing it until rendered ineffective.''-

Eric Fulton

''Being a gun owner is not only a privilege

but my right. Anyone who wants to take our

gun rights has forgotten how the birth of our

great country came about. I enjoy target

shooting as well as hunting. It is something

my husband and I do to spend time together.

If we let Congress pass any bill allowing

them to take our guns, it would be detrimental

to the well being of every American.

The criminals will have them anyway and

the hard working citizens will have no way

to protect themselves, not to mention being

able to hunt. Hunting is a way of life for a

lot of families, especially families who cannot

afford to buy beef etc. I see absolutely

nothing positive being gained by taking our

gun rights.''-Tara Preshinger

''Guns have been a part of my life and my

family's life since we have lived in the US. It

has been a useful tool in feeding my family

since we have been here. I am a soldier,

hunter, brother, son and many other things

and I refuse to let this right be taken from

me when all that will happen is it will take

firearms from people who use them as tools

and a way of life and those who use them for

bad will get them one way or another. If

guns are outlawed only outlaws will have

guns and we will have nothing to protect

ourselves with. That's way I say this right is

important to me. I am here to protect my

family, friends, and the US from all enemies

and I feel sorry for the poor sap that tries to

take this right away from me.''-Clint Dean

''As a U.S. Soldier and a Montanan guns

have always been a part of my life. I will

never give up the right to keep and bear

arms. I say if anyone wants to take my guns.

. .. . .. . ...You can try but you might want to

wait till I'm reloading!!!!!''-Matt Calnan

''There are so many reasons to oppose gun

control, it's hard to pick a favorite. I would

say that the main reason is that it simply

doesn't work. Look at places like Great Britain

and Mexico-have they become violencefree

Utopias, or do their defenseless citizens

now suffer exploded rates of violent crimes

committed with total impunity since having

been disarmed? If civil disarmament worked

well, then Great Britain wouldn't need 40

cameras on every street corner; and they

wouldn't try to do it either for fear of armed

revolt. What do our leaders hope to accomplish

with gun control? Also, how many of

them are willing to give up their own guns,

or the guns of their bodyguards? Finally, if

they take our weapons, will they legislate to

overturn Castle Rock v. Gonzales? If not,

then WHO will protect us?''-Ian Sean Montgomery

''Whether you are for or against gun control

you can still recognize that H.R. 45 is

simply unconstitutional''-Joe Chollak

''A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded

sexual and emotional maturity.''-Sigmund

Freud

''I live in Montana and I enjoy [spending]

my time in the outdoors. I grew up learning

the responsibilities of firearm ownership

from my father and my grandfather. I use

those same responsibilities in my everyday

life. I spend my fall hunting and the meat

that I harvest rarely remains in my freezer

because I like to donate it to local charities

like the rescue missions and the food banks

in my hometown. If this regulation becomes

readily available and can later be used as but

step in the ladder to complete firearm [eradication].

If this bill is put into I know that

many families who rely on groups like the

food bank for meat will go without because

this form of charity will become a distant

memory.''-Ryan Belke

''Once freedom is given up, or even compromised,

it can never be taken back. Compromise,

even in the deceitful form of regulations,

is not an infringement on the ownership

of guns, but an infringement on what it

means to be an American and the rights

granted, declared, and (supposedly) defended

by the government whom the people support.

These are our rights as Americans. Take

them away, and you take America away.

You take away life, liberty, and the pursuit

of happiness . . . because that is what Americans

are promised. Take away the promise,

and you leave us with nothing.''-Justin

Countryman

''If the right to bear arms is taken away,

what will be next? One by one other freedom

will be stripped away. The right to bear arms

gives citizens the right and ability to defend

themselves against criminals, and even if

necessary our own government. In these uncertain

times this is definitely a right we

don't want taken away. I've heard a quote

and don't know the exact source that 'if guns

are outlawed only outlaws will have

guns.' ''-Niki Griffis

''HR 45 makes the jobs of criminals easier

and threatens the safety of all law abiding

citizens, with it you can also say goodbye to

your 2nd and 4th amendment rights! It also

hurts a family tradition of target shooting

and hunting that so many people share.''-

Brant Manley

''Honest citizens use the right to bear arms

as a source of recreation through hunting,

trap shooting, etc. as well as a for an essential

source of protection in dangerous situations.

We follow the firearm regulations that

are already in place. Criminals, however, do

not. The only people who will be affected by

further restrictions against our right to bear

arms will be law-abiding citizens. HR 45 will

have no affect on criminals. Instead, the

only people left with firearms will be the

ones who should not possess them in the first

place.''-Christine Hodges

''I have seen it argued that HR 45 is simply

a bill proposing gun registration. That contention

is absolutely false. HR 45 is nothing

less than a backdoor attempt to circumvent

the 2nd Amendment, by harassing law-abiding

citizens into giving up their firearms.

Criminals don't register guns anyway. It's

quite obvious who this bill is directed toward

. . . and it isn't criminals. HR 45 addresses

only law-abiding citizens; yet, treats them

no better than convicted sex offenders or

other felons just because they own a firearm.

When the government starts using heavyhanded

tactics to suppress the freedoms of

law-abiding citizens, then those citizens need

to stand firm in defense of their rights, and

preserve the integrity of the US Constitution.''-

Debra Sullivan

Wednesday, April 22, 2009

banana republic


Share/Save/Bookmark US acts like banana republic. After spending nearly all of his first 100 days in office apologizing for being American and the perceived ills America has done to the world, President B. Hussein Obama gets a lesson in tin pot dictatorship from Ortega and Chavez.

Upon returning from the world apology tour, wherein he groveled and whined and generally behaved like an emasculated child raised by a single mother, with empty hands, empty pockets (as the worlds bullies took his lunch money on the worlds playground) and a brand new plan, President Obama set out to show what he had learned. Winning an election is not good enough. You must then embarrass, humiliate and possibly imprison your competition. Welcome to Barack’s Banana Republic, aka America.

The Constitution is slipping through Americans fingers like the mercurial republic it creates. We cannot let this President drag a former president through the mud, for actions taken to protect America after attacks on our soil. Particularly when the former President and his legal team based his decisions and actions upon a definition of torture created by the Democrat controlled congress of 1994.

Logic dictates that if you use a definition of torture, that comes from the legislative body of the United States of America, then they are the ones you seek to punish, not the person who used that definition to protect America. Of course, logic does not seem to apply to the Obama presidency.

President Obama cannot stand up to the bullies of the world due to his embarrassment at being American, his guilt of being privileged and his weakness of character and heart as demonstrated by his voting present so many times as a Senator and the giving up of America’s lunch money to anyone who asks for it. But, he can stand up to a former President who no longer has authority, after stating he won’t. Why, because the radical left of his party demand it due to Bush Derangement Syndrome. B. Hussein Obama cannot stand up to anyone. It is a sad day for him, although I am sure he is used to it by now, and a sad day for America

Monday, April 20, 2009

Native American's against Obama- The Buffalo Wars/Robbie Roberts Peyote healing song


Share/Save/Bookmark I thought I'd just spend the day enjoying some Native American Music and sharing it with you; enjoy!
To'ksa Akh'e
NA against obama- the buffalo wars

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Robbie Robertson Peyote Healing (Native American)

Lyrics:
Wani wachiyelo Ate omakiyayo (Father help me I want to live)
Atay nimichikun (Father you have done this)
Oshiya chichiyelo (Humbly have pity on me)
Wani wachiyelo Atay omakiyayo (Father help me I want to live) [
Wani wachiyelo Atay (Father I want to live)

Saturday, April 18, 2009

Indian, Sitting Bull war america sioux


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Here's a little history lesson:

Interview with He Dog, Oglala, S.D. July 7, 1930
Thomas White Cow Killer, Interpreter
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. I will be glad to tell you about Crazy Horse or any others of our old
time chiefs about whom you may wish to know because I am an old man now
and shall not live many years longer and it is time for me to tell these
things. Whatever I tell you will be the exact truth, because I was in a
position to know what I talk about. There are a lot of old Indians
hanging about the reservation who like to talk to the white people and
would just as soon tell you anything, whether it is true or not. They are
men whom we would not have had as servants, those of us who were Chiefs
in the old days.
I and Crazy Horse were both born in the same year and at the same
season of the year. We grew up together in the same band, played
together, courted the girls together and fought together. I am now
ninety-two years old, so you can figure out in what year he was born by
your calendar. When we were 17 or 18 years old we separated. Crazy
Horse went to the Rosebud Band (that is to the Brules, of whom Spotted
Tail was Chief a little later) of Indians and stayed with them for about
a year. Then he came home. After he had been back for a while, I made
inquiries about why he had left the Rosebud band. I was told he had to
come back because he had killed a Winnebago woman. (According to ancient
Lakota custom, coup could be counted on an enemy woman if she was killed
in the sight of the fighting men of her tribe. The theory was that the
enemy would fight even harder to protect or avenge one of their women
than one of their men. But the Brules were already agency Indians and
the authorities took a different attitude about it. Apparently Crazy
Horse himself changed his mind about the ethics of this custom if the
speech of his reported by Captain Hans in "The Great Sioux Nation" is
correct).
Less than a year after Crazy Horse left camp, I joined in a trip
against the Crow Indians. WHen I got home, the crier was announcing that
Crazy Horse was back in camp. Only his name was not Crazy Horse at that
time. He has three names at different times of his life. His name until
he was about ten years old was Curly Hair. Later, from the time he was
ten until the time he was about eighteen years of age, he was called
His-Horse-On-Sight, but this name did not stick to him. When he was
about eighteen years old there was a fight with the Arapahos who were up
on a high hill covered with big rocks and near a river. Although he was
just a boy, he charged them several times alone and came back wounded but
with two Arapaho scalps. His father, whose name was Crazy Horse, made a
feast and gave his son his own name. After that, the father was no
longer called by the name he had given away, but was called by a
nickname, Worm.
Crazy Horse, the son, was one of three children. The oldest was a
Sister, the next was Crazy Horse, and the third was a Brother. All are
dead now.
When we were young men, the Oglala band divided into two parts, one
led by Red Cloud and one by Man-Afraid-of-His-Horse, the elder. I and
Crazy Horse stayed with the part led by Man-Afraid-Of-His-Horse. Later
this half subdivided again into two parts. I stayed with the more Northern
half of which I and Big Road, and later Holy Bald Eagle and Red Cloud,
were appointed joint Chiefs ("shirt wearers", so called from a particular
kind of ceremonial shirt worn by this class of chieftain as insignia of
office).
Crazy Horse remained with the Southern quarter of the tribe. The
council of this division awarded the chieftainship to Crazy Horse,
American Horse, Young-Man-Afraid-Of-His-Horse, and Sword. It was many
years after our first battles before we were made Chiefs. A man had to
distinguish himself in many fights and in peace as well before he could
be chosen as a Chief.
(After consultation together, He Dog and the interpreter dated these
appointments as having been made about 1865 by the white man's calendar)
The name of Crazy Horse's band was the Hunkpatila (End of Circle) band
because when the tribe was encamped together it occupied one end of the
tribal crescent.
At about the time these appointments were made Crazy Horse moved
towards the White Mountains (Indian name of the Big Horn Mountains).
Crazy Horse and I went together on a war trip to the other side of the
mountains. When we came back, the people came out of the camp to meet us
and escorted us back and at a big ceremony presented us with two spears,
the gift of the whole tribe, which was met together. These spears were
each three or four hundreds years old and were given by the older
generation to those in the younger generation who had best lived the life
of a warrior.
Crazy Horse was still single when he was made a "shirt wearer". A few
years after this he began to pay attention to the wife of a man named No
Water. No Water did not want to let the woman go.
In the Battle "When They Chased The Crows Back To Camp", (1870) He Dog
and Crazy Horse were the lance bearers of the Kangi Yuhn (Crow Owner's
Society). About ten days after that battle Crazy Horse started off on a
smaller war expedition and No Water's wife went along with him.
No Water followed them and came to the tipi of Bad Heart Bull and
asked to borrow a certain good revolver (Bad Heart Bull was a brother of
He Dog and is now dead) which Bad Heart Bull owned. He said he wanted to
go hunting. Crazy Horse and the woman were sitting by the fire in a tipi
belonging to some of their friends. No Water entered the tipi, walked up
to Crazy Horse as near as I am to that stove (about four feet) and shot
him through the face. The bullet entered just below the left nostril.
That is how Crazy Horse got his scar. No Water took his wife back.
Because of all this, Crazy Horse could not be a "shirt wearer" any
longer. When we were made Chiefs, we were bound by very strict rules as
to what we should do and what not do, which were very hard for us to
follow. I have never spoken to nay but a very few persons of what they
made us promise them. I have always kept the oaths I made then, but
Crazy Horse did not.
Later on the older, more responsible men of the tribe conferred
another kind of Chieftainship on Crazy Horse. He was made War Chief of
the whole Oglala tribe. A similar office was conferred on Sitting Bull
by the Hunkpapa tribe. This was still early, a long, long time before
the Custer fight. At this time the government did not know who we were.
Crazy Horse always led his men himself, when they went into battle,
and he kept well in front of them. He headed many charges and was many
times wounded in battle, but never seriously. He never wore a war
bonnet. A medicine man named Chips had given him power if he would wear in
battle an eagle bone whistle and one feather and a certain round stone
with a hole in it. He wore the stone under his left arm, suspended by a
leather thong that went over his shoulder. The one central feather that
is in the middle of the war eagle's tail, that was the feather he wore in
his hair.
(He Dog denied with a chuckle, various stories told about how Crazy
Horse on certain occasions threw away his rifle and charged in with a war
club or a riding quirt, a characteristic Indian mode of seeking death in
battle) Crazy Horse always stuck close to his rifle. He always tried to
kill as many as possible of the enemy without losing his own men.
He never spoke in council and attended very few. There was no special
reason for this, it was just his nature. He was a very quiet man except
when there was fighting.
Crazy Horse was married three times. The first time was to No Water's
wife, but she only stayed with him a few days. Shortly after that he
married Red Feather's sister. By her he had one child, a little girl who
died when about two years old. A long while after, when he had
surrendered at Ft. Robinson, he married a young half-breed girl. He did
not have any children by her.

Buried in teeth Mariee Sioux


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Susan Boyle; you will be amazed!


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Tuesday, April 14, 2009

4/14/09 Pre Tea Party Event


Share/Save/Bookmark Twas the night before the Big Tea Party and everyone is in the position within the states they are to attend; A preview on the tellie showed they were parading the route in advance. A few Thomas Paine's to relax and partake at the end of this blog.

Watch out for the Acorn (leftist wing 'nuts'), they are gonna try to get the party out of control and use violence if they have to!They don't even understand what the protest is all about. Besides, they are Welfare folks that have been paid to protest! Hey Democrat's and extreme leftists, you got to pay taxes too, Join in, "But be cool"!


After the Tea Party tomorrow, We all must focus on making our State's Sovereign!

We have to join together and start the drive; to enjoin our Governor's, Senator's and Representative's to the fact that 'We The People' are ready to take our government back into our own hands and stop letting the Federal Government force us to take on some of the financial fascist laws, and controls on our freedoms! Here's a few video's to watch, they are all true! Listen closely as they speak and inform.....

"According to the Department of Homeland Security, Texas fits the Department's profile of potential domestic terrorism described in their newly released report titled, " Right-wing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment".



The update on states is now totaled 30!



Penn. State Rep Sam Rohrer
Pennsylvania probably is on the terrorists watch list also! Along with the other 29 states....Shouldn't the Fed's realize the American People are mad as hell and we are standing up for what we believe in?



Here's a few of Thomas Paine's video's to enjoy.....





Thursday, April 2, 2009

Fox news reports:


Share/Save/Bookmark The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.
While 90 percent of the guns traced to the U.S. actually originated in the United States, the percent traced to the U.S. is only about 17 percent of the total number of guns reaching Mexico.
By William La Jeunesse and Maxim Lott

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Thursday, April 02, 2009


FILE: In this Nov. 7, 2008, photo a soldier stands guard during the presentation in Mexico City of arms, captured in the largest seizure of Gulf drug-cartel weapons to date, about 288 assault rifles, 500,000 rounds of ammunition, numerous grenades and several .50-caliber rifles (AP).

-- Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said it to reporters on a flight to Mexico City.

-- CBS newsman Bob Schieffer referred to it while interviewing President Obama.

-- California Sen. Dianne Feinstein said at a Senate hearing: "It is unacceptable to have 90 percent of the guns that are picked up in Mexico and used to shoot judges, police officers and mayors ... come from the United States."

-- William Hoover, assistant director for field operations at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, testified in the House of Representatives that "there is more than enough evidence to indicate that over 90 percent of the firearms that have either been recovered in, or interdicted in transport to Mexico, originated from various sources within the United States."

There's just one problem with the 90 percent "statistic" and it's a big one:

It's just not true.

In fact, it's not even close. The fact is, only 17 percent of guns found at Mexican crime scenes have been traced to the U.S.

What's true, an ATF spokeswoman told FOXNews.com, in a clarification of the statistic used by her own agency's assistant director, "is that over 90 percent of the traced firearms originate from the U.S."

But a large percentage of the guns recovered in Mexico do not get sent back to the U.S. for tracing, because it is obvious from their markings that they do not come from the U.S.

"Not every weapon seized in Mexico has a serial number on it that would make it traceable, and the U.S. effort to trace weapons really only extends to weapons that have been in the U.S. market," Matt Allen, special agent of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), told FOX News.

A Look at the Numbers

In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Close to 6,000 were successfully traced -- and of those, 90 percent -- 5,114 to be exact, according to testimony in Congress by William Hoover -- were found to have come from the U.S.

But in those same two years, according to the Mexican government, 29,000 guns were recovered at crime scenes.

In other words, 68 percent of the guns that were recovered were never submitted for tracing. And when you weed out the roughly 6,000 guns that could not be traced from the remaining 32 percent, it means 83 percent of the guns found at crime scenes in Mexico could not be traced to the U.S.

So, if not from the U.S., where do they come from? There are a variety of sources:

-- The Black Market. Mexico is a virtual arms bazaar, with fragmentation grenades from South Korea, AK-47s from China, and shoulder-fired rocket launchers from Spain, Israel and former Soviet bloc manufacturers.

-- Russian crime organizations. Interpol says Russian Mafia groups such as Poldolskaya and Moscow-based Solntsevskaya are actively trafficking drugs and arms in Mexico.

- South America. During the late 1990s, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) established a clandestine arms smuggling and drug trafficking partnership with the Tijuana cartel, according to the Federal Research Division report from the Library of Congress.

-- Asia. According to a 2006 Amnesty International Report, China has provided arms to countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America. Chinese assault weapons and Korean explosives have been recovered in Mexico.

-- The Mexican Army. More than 150,000 soldiers deserted in the last six years, according to Mexican Congressman Robert Badillo. Many took their weapons with them, including the standard issue M-16 assault rifle made in Belgium.

-- Guatemala. U.S. intelligence agencies say traffickers move immigrants, stolen cars, guns and drugs, including most of America's cocaine, along the porous Mexican-Guatemalan border. On March 27, La Hora, a Guatemalan newspaper, reported that police seized 500 grenades and a load of AK-47s on the border. Police say the cache was transported by a Mexican drug cartel operating out of Ixcan, a border town.

'These Don't Come From El Paso'

Ed Head, a firearms instructor in Arizona who spent 24 years with the U.S. Border Patrol, recently displayed an array of weapons considered "assault rifles" that are similar to those recovered in Mexico, but are unavailable for sale in the U.S.

"These kinds of guns -- the auto versions of these guns -- they are not coming from El Paso," he said. "They are coming from other sources. They are brought in from Guatemala. They are brought in from places like China. They are being diverted from the military. But you don't get these guns from the U.S."

Some guns, he said, "are legitimately shipped to the government of Mexico, by Colt, for example, in the United States. They are approved by the U.S. government for use by the Mexican military service. The guns end up in Mexico that way -- the fully auto versions -- they are not smuggled in across the river."

Many of the fully automatic weapons that have been seized in Mexico cannot be found in the U.S., but they are not uncommon in the Third World.

The Mexican government said it has seized 2,239 grenades in the last two years -- but those grenades and the rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs) are unavailable in U.S. gun shops. The ones used in an attack on the U.S. Consulate in Monterrey in October and a TV station in January were made in South Korea. Almost 70 similar grenades were seized in February in the bottom of a truck entering Mexico from Guatemala.

"Most of these weapons are being smuggled from Central American countries or by sea, eluding U.S. and Mexican monitors who are focused on the smuggling of semi-automatic and conventional weapons purchased from dealers in the U.S. border states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California," according to a report in the Los Angeles Times.

Boatloads of Weapons

So why would the Mexican drug cartels, which last year grossed between $17 billion and $38 billion, bother buying single-shot rifles, and force thousands of unknown "straw" buyers in the U.S. through a government background check, when they can buy boatloads of fully automatic M-16s and assault rifles from China, Israel or South Africa?

Alberto Islas, a security consultant who advises the Mexican government, says the drug cartels are using the Guatemalan border to move black market weapons. Some are left over from the Central American wars the United States helped fight; others, like the grenades and launchers, are South Korean, Israeli and Spanish. Some were legally supplied to the Mexican government; others were sold by corrupt military officers or officials.

The exaggeration of United States "responsibility" for the lawlessness in Mexico extends even beyond the "90-percent" falsehood -- and some Second Amendment activists believe it's designed to promote more restrictive gun-control laws in the U.S.

In a remarkable claim, Auturo Sarukhan, the Mexican ambassador to the U.S., said Mexico seizes 2,000 guns a day from the United States -- 730,000 a year. That's a far cry from the official statistic from the Mexican attorney general's office, which says Mexico seized 29,000 weapons in all of 2007 and 2008.

Chris Cox, spokesman for the National Rifle Association, blames the media and anti-gun politicians in the U.S. for misrepresenting where Mexican weapons come from.

"Reporter after politician after news anchor just disregards the truth on this," Cox said. "The numbers are intentionally used to weaken the Second Amendment."

"The predominant source of guns in Mexico is Central and South America. You also have Russian, Chinese and Israeli guns. It's estimated that over 100,000 soldiers deserted the army to work for the drug cartels, and that ignores all the police. How many of them took their weapons with them?"

But Tom Diaz, senior policy analyst at the Violence Policy Center, called the "90 percent" issue a red herring and said that it should not detract from the effort to stop gun trafficking into Mexico.

"Let's do what we can with what we know," he said. "We know that one hell of a lot of firearms come from the United States because our gun market is wide open